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Apr 21, Amanda rated it it was amazing Shelves: human-rights-themed. This is practically a handbook for allies. I truly believe every LGBT ally should read this book. Kathy covers the history political and religious of heterosexism, the science behind sexual orientation, and theology -- all while including a wealth of very personal stories from the LGBT community and allies.
She has clearly done her research and provides six and a half pages of references and dozens of footnotes. I also had to privilege of meeting Kathy and she is a loving, accepting, wonderful This is practically a handbook for allies. I also had to privilege of meeting Kathy and she is a loving, accepting, wonderful person. Thank God for this book! Oct 25, Tim Rymel rated it it was amazing. Baldock has compiled an extensive overview of the historical, cultural, social, political and religious forces that have converged to get us to the place in the America church where we are today.
Any one of these forces is worthy of a complete book and she has heavily footnoted her research if further study is desired. There are many testimonies from LGBT Christians determined to hold tight to Jesus in spite of the hatred directed toward them from the church and many testimonies from straight Christians who have journeyed over that frightening gulf to stand with them in their struggle. Regardless of where you find yourself on the scale from affirming to non-affirming, the insights and perspectives gained from this book should help you to better discern truth from hysteria, compassionate response from fear.
It is undeniable that the Holy Spirit is on the move concerning the topic of the inclusion of gay Christians in our churches and it is time for the church in America to lay aside emotions and ignorance and actually talk respectfully with our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters, not simply talk disparagingly about them.
This book is a wonderful platform to begin these conversations. I highly recommend it. To God be the glory. This is a comprehensive look at how religion and society has looked at LGBT people from Biblical times to the present day. It explains how attitudes have changed and the factors that have influenced changing attitudes. I found this book really helpful and illuminating.
I have struggled with the judgemental attitudes of conservative Christians in my own church, but Kathy encourages allies to have an attitude of grace to all. The book is aimed at the general reader rather than an academic This is a comprehensive look at how religion and society has looked at LGBT people from Biblical times to the present day. The book is aimed at the general reader rather than an academic researcher, and because of the wealth of references it took me a while to realise that while I was reading an informed and informative book, it was not a scholarly dissertation.
Because of my preconceptions I initially found the patchy referencing a bit irritating. But as I got into the book I was happy just to motor through, and look at the references later. I would recommend this book to anyone looking for answers about those 6 verses of Scripture that are used so often to bring down LGBT Christians that they are known as the 'clobber verses. When my church had a Homosexuality and the Bible study series, I left with a long reading list. This is the first one I chose, mostly because one of my friends from church is a huge Kathy Baldock fan and organized a group to go see her speak when she was in town, but I had to miss it.
I figured I should at least read her book so I can be ready for next time she comes around. What's interesting about Kathy is that she is a straight Evangelical Christian and her kids are straight, which makes her When my church had a Homosexuality and the Bible study series, I left with a long reading list. What's interesting about Kathy is that she is a straight Evangelical Christian and her kids are straight, which makes her journey so interesting because she didn't NEED to pursue this. She could have lived in her bubble, but she chose not to, and that is interesting.
Actually, what I took away most from this book was the importance of having Allies and being Allies, to amplify the voices that need to be heard.
The target audience for this book seems to be straight, Evangelical Christians. What I expected was the usual unpacking of the six Bible verses that relate to homosexuality, but that is only in chapter 9. Kathy knows that before you can do that, you need to understand the history of psychology, medicine, politics, and American culture that led to this intense persecution of a minority group by a religion that is founded in love.
Before you can understand questionable translations of two specific words in the Bible, you need to understand why people who are products of their times chose those specific translations. For Kathy, it was the realization that there were Gay Christians that led her to start questioning and researching, so she spends a lot of time sharing stories of people who were shunned by their churches but still continued to practice their faith.
I loved this book and I love the work Kathy is doing. I am proud to be part of a church that is affirming, and I am inspired to reach out to Christians who have different ideas about homosexuality than I do.
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As Kathy puts it, we are called to journey in love with others who are unlike ourselves. May 21, Betsy rated it it was amazing.
Had I given it a rating based solely on my own reading, it would have received 4 stars. This is an excellently researched book, very clear, very Biblically-based for the target audience , and extremely informative. I highly recommend it! Mar 22, Sarah rated it liked it Shelves: theology , social-justice. I found this book frustrating because of a lack of good footnotes; even though there were footnotes, often a single source was cited repeatedly or the sources seemed less than credible.
It was also irritating that Baldock assumed most of the way through the book that the only two stances are "homosexuals can't be Christians" and "homosexuality is ordained by God," with no middle ground. And yet the personal stories were very moving and I now understand that there are biblical grounds for I found this book frustrating because of a lack of good footnotes; even though there were footnotes, often a single source was cited repeatedly or the sources seemed less than credible. And yet the personal stories were very moving and I now understand that there are biblical grounds for accepting homosexuality.
I feel like I need to outline and summarize her arguments because they are still fragmented and in pieces in my head. However, I am also really tired of thinking about this issue, so that may not happen for a long time. This book is a must read for any evangelical Christian. I had also read up on Lonnie Frisbee. But I had no idea how much queer heritage Calvary Chapel and the Jesus Movement have, and have hidden from history. The church would not be the same without the This book is a must read for any evangelical Christian. The church would not be the same without the efforts of queer Christians.
Sep 21, Carrie rated it it was amazing Shelves: I highly recommend this book!! The history of the knowledge and understanding of LGBT people in the medical community, society, and religious groups have been thoroughly researched and cited in this book. Sep 10, Terry Watson rated it it was amazing. An outstanding synopsis of the history of LBGTQ and the struggle of the church to move from judgment and rejection to affirmation and welcome. Also a powerful call to challenge one's own beliefs, assumptions and general ignorance.
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Feb 27, Carol rated it it was amazing. I loved this book so much. It helped me as an ally, to sort through my beliefs. Jul 31, Heidi Archer rated it it was amazing. Finished last week and still trying to process all my notes to post a review. Sep 26, Dee Dee rated it it was amazing. Cleared things up.
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Nov 16, Kelsey Cox rated it it was amazing Shelves: favorite , social-justice , no-homo , read-again , the-rules-of-feminism , nonfiction. Excellent research, balanced and interesting. Combining story telling with scholarship, my favorite kind of book.
Nov 22, Jessica rated it really liked it Shelves: book-club-reads. However, I would hope that most churches are already praying for the Holy Spirit to touch lives. Super Helpful! It Helped to center my mind and heart heading into Sunday. I am now part of the core planning team for the LoveEpidemic Faith Collective Impact to fight the drug addiction in Ohio.
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Scrolling through many of these comments on your post just broke my heart because I AM the community Jesus is calling us to reach and not only am I hearing the bitterness and sarcasm from Christians in this post, but I am also on the receiving end of conversations with countless church leaders I speak with almost daily who also have these views especially when speaking of cutting through racism, descrimination, and deniminational differences.
I follow and listen to you weekly and I love your podcasts! One thing that I would love to hear more of is to not only develop leaders within the church walls, but how we, as the church, mobilize the congregation out of the pews into the community spreading the hope of Jesus Christ. Carey I understand slightly your plight. This post addressed some of the issues within congregations. The main issue is that we are the church and the focus tends to always be on the actions of the congregation and the leaders than saving souls. All of these ministries do not work cohesively with each other but rather separately fighting for people that have been ransom to freedom by God.
Purchased with blood by Jesus. I am a layperson. No consistency No follow-up No interactiion with school, principal,staff, faculty, nor students. I and all my teachers found it dry, outdated and not enough good content to actually disciple children. The same boring recycled bible stories do not cut it anymore. Research show that by the time a church going child is 13 they have decided whether or not they will serve Christ. And the statistics are dismal to say the least. While in years past CM was viewed as glorified babysitting, this is not the case.
One of the top things a newcomer family looks at is the quality of The CM.